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4/27/1998
Chunsheng Ban
Chen Ying (Astronomy 77),
please contact your BNU's classmate Sun Jiangang as soon as
possible at his email address jgsun@email.bnu.edu.cn
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May, 27 1998
Sumei Liu
For all the students of Biology 86,undergradute and Biology 90, graduate:
If you have chance to visit this page, please contact with me. I am glad to hear from any of you, to recall the good time in BNU and share the new experience in the foreign countries.
Sumei Liu
240 west 8th Ave. Apt.y
Columbus,OH 43201
USA
(614)-294,7439(H)
(614)-292,9924(O)
e-mail: liu.274@osu.edu
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01-01-1970
Yong
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June 5, 1998
Sun Changmin
If you have the chance to read this page and know me personally,
please e-mail me. I will be too glad to know where and how my
old classmates and friends are.
Take care before I have the chance to chat with you.
Sun Changmin (Education'87)
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8/31/98
Isaiah Forrest
Subj: Hello
Date: 98-08-30 03:00:00 EDT
From: ILforrest
To: Terramoon
CC: ILforrest
Dear Friend,
Please read the followings and let's do somethings.
"Chinese" - A Racial Slur Against People of "CHINA"
I'm from a place we call it "Central Kingdom" or "Zhong-Guao", which
English people called it "China". I've been living in the United States
of America for ten years. I had a few interesting encounters and
realized that "Chinese" is actually a racial slur derogatory to our
people. I would like to share my thoughts with you.
Last year, I was riding a downtown trolley in Nashville, Tennessee. I
started a conversation with the trolley driver. He has a son adopted from
Korea. And he was very disturbed that kids at his son's school
kept picking on his son and called him "Chinese". His boy came home
everyday crying and felt miserable. The driver told his son to tell other
kids in the school that he is not a "Chineeee-se", instead, he is a
"Korean", or a "Korean American".
I wondered at the time why the kids at the school didn't call the boy
"Korean" to insult him.
In winter 1991, I was in downtown Cincinnati, visiting my girlfriend. There
was a group of young people hanging out around the street corner. They saw
me walking by. To my surprise, they started having fun and pointed at me
yelling at me "Chinese, Chinese". I wondered why.
The other day, I was getting off work and walking to the parking garage, a
homeless man stopped me begging for money. I thought a while and said "no,
sorry". To my surprise, this worthless bum got upset, and yelled at me
"your Chinese".
I have suspected all along, then, I suddenly realized that "Chinese"
actually is a racial slur. In English, English people used to call African
people "Nigger" and yellow people "Chinese". In the first instance, the
school kids know perfectly well the trolley driver's kid is a Korean, but
to call the kid "Korean" would do no damage, calling him "Chinese" will
indeed be a humiliation and an insult. Because, in English, the great
Britain people use "-ese" to describe the races, in their views, of
"Inferior", "insignificant", "weak", "weird", "small", "disease-carrying" or
"evolved from worms", which they despised and loathed; Such as Chinese,
Japanese, Vietnamese, Portuguese. And they use "-ese" to put us down.
And they use -an, to describe people of "superior" races, for example,
American, Canadian, Britain, German, Californian, Texan. That was why
that worthless bum called me "your Chinese", not "Your Asian", or not
"your American" or not "your Korean" to insult me, even though He didn't
know where I actually come from. The "Chinese" was appropriate here. It was
a proper racial slur at this situation to any "yellow" people and will do
the right damage and harm.
I'm from a place in eastern Asia, where, British people visited, subdued,
oppressed and humiliated its people, and gave the place the name "China"
and its "small", "insignificant", "inferior", "worthless", "disease-carrying"
and "wormy" people a name "Chinese", even if they knew our name for the
land is "Central Kingdom" and was pronounced as "Zhong Guao".
I know that the God creates all human being equal and I feel good about
myself, my race and where I came from. I'm not ashamed of my heritage and
my racial background. I get really offended when people calling me
"Chinese". It hurts me the same way when black people are called "Nigger".
I remembered when I first came to USA, I had an American friend at
University of Tennessee, whose name is John. His grandparent were from
Shanghai, China. John was born and raised here in the United States. He
would talk about his grandparent and China often. He is obviously not
ashamed of his heritage and racial background. However, every time people
asked him if he is a Chinese, he would get really upset and said "no".
He hated the word "Chinese". I didn't know why at that time, now I know
better. Because it is a racial slur means to put us down. It is equivalent
to "Nigger" for African people.
The place I came from we call her "Zhong-Guo", or "Central Kingdom". I'm
proud of whom I am and where I come from. "China" has nothing to do with
the "Central Kingdom", neither in its meanings and nor in its
pronunciation. Especially, People of "Central Kingdom" does not deserved
to be called "Chinese". It is pity that such "great" "Britain" people had so
little "decency" and so "tiny hearts" to name our land and our people in
such a way.
Few hundred years ago, when the "superior" "great" Britain people came to
"Central Kingdom", they saw our people, dressed differently, who in
British's views were lesser than dogs or worms, worthless, yellow and
small, "disease-carrying", "evolved from worms". The "superior" "Great"
Britain people felt justified to make up the derogatory slurs "China" and
"Chinese" to describe our land and our people. I thought we people of
"Central Kingdom" would be more alert and would suspect earlier that these
words could be bad words based on their attitude towards us and the way
they treated us. Do you think those "Great" "Britain" people had the
decency and intent to "assign" us, the worms, a decent name?
It is a pity that the "GREAT" "Britain" people's story about these
slurs shows no intent of covering up their heinous injustice against
us. They claimed that our nation was named "China" was because one of
our town(Jing De) produced china. And they casually added "-ese" to
"China" to come up with a name for the people of "China". We wonder
if this was the way the "Great" "Britain" people naming other nations
and their people, why didn't they call Italy "Pizza" and its people
"Pizzese", since it is famous for Pizza? why did't they call Gemany
"Beer" and its people "Beerese", since it was famous for "Beer
Drinking"? why did't they call USA "Corn", its people "Cornese",
since some of its states produce corn? And why didn't they name
England "Sodom", and English people "Sodomese", since most of
English people pratice sodomy?
Let's remember 70 years ago, the people of "Central Kingdom" choose
the communists not out of craziness, but to combat not only the internal
oppressions, but also the aggressions, oppressions and humiliations by
foreigners, especially, by British and by Japan. These foreigners came
not as "Christ" or Saviors offering salvations, preaching Gospel of Jesus
Christ or brotherly love to our people, as their western decendants would
like to believe, but mainly as predators, oppressors and racists. They
treated us bad enough to force us to unite under the communists. Thanks
God, under the communists' leadership, we were finally able to expel
them from our land.
Every time I hear somebody say "I'm pround to be a Chinese", I cringed and
feel small. We, people from "Central Kingdom" should have known English and
its people better. It is nothing wrong to feel proud of our heritage, our
race and our "Central Kingdom". But you don't hear African people saying
"I'm proud to be a Nigger". They say "I'm proud to be an African". Remember
many years ago, we called people of Japan "Wou -Kou(Short little Pirate)".
Do they have rights to get mad if we "teach" them their name in Mandarin
is "Wou-Kou" and call them "Wou-Kou" to their face? Was it decent for us to
do so? Is it an insult if they still called themself "Wou - Kou"? Should
we get mad if someone still call us "Chinese" to our face to these day?
The racial slur they created a few hundred years ago for us, means to put
us down? Should we still call ourselves "Chinese", even if it is a
derogatory name given to us by the "Great Britain", meaned to put us
down?
It is time to reject words "China" "Chinese" imposed by British racists,
and use our own words to describe ourselves and get our dignity
back. Persia. The country changed its English name from Persia to Iran, and
its people to Iranian 30 years ago. They are proud to be called Iranian.
They're not naive enough to call themselves "Iranese". A cab driver(An US
citizen for 30 years) in Chicago insisted me calling him "Iranian" not
"American". In opposite, many Amercians of "Central Kingdom" background
would beg to be called "Asian" or "American", not "Chinese". It is not
because these people feel shame about their race and their heritage. It is
not because we want to be American so bad. It is because, many people of
"central kingdom" to some extent, subconsciously realize the derogatory
effects and attacks of this word; and try to avoid it.
Many people from "Central Kingdom" would beg to be called "Asian". This
has became so evident that In a recent movie "Big Lebowski", actor John
Goodman made so much fun of the people from "Central Kingdom". He
ridiculed us, laughing at us for this "weird" behavior. He wanted us to
be satisfy with being called "C-ese". Mr. Goodman, the reason we want to
be called "Asian", is because we don't want to be called "Chinese".
Since English does not have a proper word for us, we asked you to call
us "Asian". Is that too much to ask? Like black people who don't want
to be called "Nigger", we don't want to be called "Chinese". Your fat
ugly mean idiot, why did you have to stab our hearts and destroy our
spirits?
In English, we should say for Now, "I am from Central Kingdom of
Sinai(from Greek) (or C. K.)" and "I'm a Sinaian". or "I'm proud to be a
Taiwanan", not "Taiwan-ese". Sinai is a Greek word for our land. The
words "China", "Chinese" "Taiwanese" should be eliminated from vocabulary.
It is a racial slur and has done a great injustice to People of Asian race.
Even school kids, bums and beggars know the difference. It was a shame that
English speaking world tolerates and condones this kind of conspiracy and
injustice against our people even to these days.
I hope by eliminating the "C-ese" word, our kids would encounter less
discrimination and hurts in this land. They will be called something decent
and respectful. And hope that we don't have to tell our kids that they "are"
"Korean" not "Chinese", even if they are indeed lowly "Chinese". A friend
of mine said if we, people of "Central Kingdom" shows that we're better in
Every way, then the meanings of the "Chinese" would change. I doubt it.
First of all, we can't be better than other races in every way. Secondly,
we don't need to be better in every way to be respected and have a proper
name. Third, even if we're better in every way, the derogatory meanings of
"C-ese" will not change. Can the super star Michal Jordan of the Chicago
Bulls change the meanings of "Nigger" because He was a "Nigger" and he is
excellent in every way? Can success of Japan change the meanings of
"WEI-KOU"
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Oct. 29, 1998
Fayu Lai
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Nov. 24, 1998
Ji Gang
Dear friend,
I wanted long to tell you that I donnot like the word "Chinese" either.
I´ve been living in Germany for several years. The German pronunciation
of "Chinese" is (in Pin Yin) "xin nei ze", which is not pleasing to the
ear at all. Besides, I don´t believe that the English people called our
country China, just because we have "Jing De China". About two weeks ago,
I had some unpleasant experience as I was watching the world championship
of Woman Weight Lifting on TV (which was held in Finnland). Our chinese
sportler (woman, 69 kilo level, I forget her name) was waiting the whole
time behind the stage while sportlers of other countries (Germany,...) were
competing very hard with one another. As she finnally appeared at the last
weight level, the German TV commendator got obviously a little bit upset
and said: No one would wish an athlete anything bad, but if she failed, that
would be of advantage for XXX (a German sportler). That sounds still like a
gentleman! But as our sportler finnally succeeded and came down the stage
without even a smile on her face, the commendator got so upset that he called
her face a "porcelain face"!
Under such a stress situation, anyone would understand why this or that
athlete cannot smile. Besides, it´s none of your business if she smiles! I
would have called him, if there were a hotline, because he has been talking
(and laughing) the whole time about that smileless face, too many times indeed!
Dear friend, I believe today that "China" and "Chinese" were created as a
racial slur against us, though I also believe that many of the european
people donnot want to do any harm to us when they call us Chinese (why
should they?). Anyway, however, I would be very glad if our country and our
people have names other than "China" or (especially) "Chinese".
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19/12/98
txhu
Let's talk about the reasons why BNU has been lagging behind since 1950's.
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12/21/1998
Xiao-Gang Su
Because of the social status of teachers, as well as the stipend a particular teacher could possibly earn in a single month.Probably the name of BNU also restricts its development, which should be taken into account by any means.
By the way, I'm kind of confused at why people name it as 'Normal'. Does it originate from British English? I've never heard of English university named like this. Anyone could clearify this? You know what? When a student in the class which I TAed b4 heard of this name, she made an instant connection with the question " Do you also have an univ. named as 'Beijing Abnormal Univ.? "
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4/5/99
Laura
USA Today--March 31, 1999
SAN JOSE, Calif. - Mouse potatoes, rejoice. A new company is offering Web surfers 50 cents an hour for their time online. In exchange for the loot, the Internet users must allow a bar of advertisements to move across the bottom of their screen. AllAdvantage.com (http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARI268) plans to launch the service Tuesday. Members, who sign up for free, earn money anytime they are online and displaying the so-called viewbar, which opens automatically whenever their browser is launched. They can make up to $20 a month (that's 40 hours online) and 5 cents an hour when people they referred are browsing online. AllAdvantage.com, based in Los Altos, Calif., is run by Jim Jorgenson, who co-founded Discovery Zone children's indoor playgrounds. He said the company will not sell, rent or exchange identifiable personal information about members.
I signed up two days ago and posted the link with my ID onto 40 bulletin boards on the Internet( It took me about 4 hours). A few minutes ago when I checked my account at Alladvantage (they keep a record for you, so you can check your performance online once you signed up), there were already 114 direct referrals and 1216 indirect referrals. Is it amazing. It shows the power of the Internet.
I think you can do the same. Here are a few tips for you to start:
1). Click the link http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARI268 to sign up. This will take you about 2 minutes. They will give your an ID (such as ARI268).
2). Draft a message to include the link with your ID. They have premade E-mail message if your like to use, but it may take a day to receive their message. So I advise you make a simple message for your own to have a quick start.
3). Send your message. A good start place is your department/school E-mail list, or your student association mail list. After that, your can try to post your message alumni E-mail list of the school you graduated. Here is a list of oversea alumni of more than 100 schools. Your may find the one you belong http://www.wmforum.com/online/alumnis.html. Another place to send is online bulletin boards. This link,http://www.creaders.net/, lists a lot of chinese bulletin board. Certainly, your are not limited to chinese. To post on public bulletin boards, be aware of their topic, try to make you message relavent.
4). If you are interested in watching my performance update and what is my next tip, please join in Laura's mailing list by replying this message( you do not need to include any test in your reply) at laura2139@hotmail.com.
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I wish you all good luck and have a productive week.
Yours,
Laura
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99/04/26
iBird
hi,i'm zxy,from fujian,graduated 1994.Now,i create a forum in yahoo's clubs: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/bnu
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April 28, 1999
David Rice
Dear Beijing Normal Alumni:
Ni hao from Ireland. In 1989 I was a journalist in Beijing, and I got to know many wonderful people at Beijing Normal. I was in the college many times, and grew to admire the students' courage all through the events of Tianamen Square.
So moved was I by what happened that I have now written a new book about the Tiananmen protest and massacre. This letter is simply to tell you about it. I have aimed to reach many thousands worldwide, and it looks as if I am succeeding.
Called Song of Tiananmen Square, the book's secret is that it uses the fiction format of a love story to reach a mass readership worldwide and tell about the massacre. While the story may be fictional, there is absolutely nothing fictional about the massacre account in the book. It tells, in a way never before attempted, the terrible facts of 1989. Fiction is used deliberately to make the events come alive in everyone's mind.
But it might interest you to know that the main character in the book -- Song Lan -- is a young woman I knew at Beijing Normal. Perhaps you can recognise her. Some of the other characters are also from there. Obviously I cannot name them, but you might even know them!
I was working in Beijing both before and after the massacre. I went back to Beijing later and, while working for Xinhua, secretly interviewed 400 of the young people who had survived the massacre. Finally the security police got on to me, but that's a story in itself.
We are hoping that Song of Tiananmen Square will raise awareness of the massacre around the world, and thus frustrate the cover-up. There are already enquiries about filming the story.
The book has its own website, where you can read all the details, including generous extracts. Website is http://homepage.tinet.ie/~drice I hope you will find time to look at it.
This letter is to say -- if you think the book could be helpful in any way, you are welcome to quote it, refer to it, any way you like. Probably the best way to do this would be by referring to the above website.
If you like the extracts from the book, could you link us to your website? The story could be one of the most effective ways of raising awareness.
And would you pass the word around about the book and our website? Especially could you tell your friends and colleagues? Perhaps you could simply copy this e-mail to your contacts?
The book, by the way, will shortly be available from on-line bookstores. However Britain will have them before the US. In fact Amazon.uk are already taking orders, and our website can link you to them directly.
Finally I want to thank you for all the wonderful times I spent at Beijing Normal.
Wishing you all the best in your work.
-- David Rice
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9/6/99
Nicolas Arriaga
Dear all at BNU
I am a teacher of Spanish and I will be at your university next course.
I would be very pleased if you can contact me to get to know some people before I'm there.
I would like to get some information from students, especially at the foreign language department, much better if it is the Spanish dept.
Thanks a lot
Nicolas, from Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain
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1999/06/16
Deng Yuheng
Hi, all the classmates in 85 class of Chemistry Dept. from BNU:
14 years ago, we came from the ends of the earth in China and had
been living and studying together for 4 years. 10 years ago, we
each went his own way without convivial farewell. We have been
yearning towards each other in the past 10 years. In the end of
the 20th century, we hope to meet each other at our Alma Mater,
and revive the old dream unredeemed.
We all of the 85 classmates of chemistry. Dept. from BNU in China
plan to have a decennial meeting in BNU about the end of July. Now
we have collected almost all of the contacting address (mailing,
E-mail) and Tel. No. of the 85 classmates. We intend to send
everybody a remembrancer containing the newest contacting address
and personal or whole family picture. We hope the classmates
interested in it reply to us as soon as possible.
Hope you! My old classmate! My old friend!
Your sincerely.
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9.23.1999
Feng Liming
We have to make more BNUers know here and visit here.
Any BNUer contacting me will be welcome. feng@nwu.edu
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jun,tang
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1,11,1999
jun,tang
To:Graduates from Philosophy Dept in 1986
Nice to hear from you guys.Pls contact me.